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Poster: jloh Date: May 10, 2006 10:18pm
Forum: etree Subject: Collections

How do you find/get to the collections such as, http://www.archive.org/details/GratefulDead?

Will there be a list? Browsing by creator does not get you to the collections, just a generic search results page. The collection link on the side does not get you to there either.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: May 10, 2006 11:14pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Collections- Need "subcollection" link

True, I hope that's on the to-do list: An easy to click link for what I think is this search:
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Acollection%20collection%3Aetree

Or better, a presentation page that looks pretty much like this one:
http://www.archive.org/browse.php?collection=etree&field=%2Fmetadata%2Fcreator
but when names are clicked, takes you the to the band's collection page.

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2006-05-11 06:14:46

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Poster: Dancing Salmon Date: May 11, 2006 1:35am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Collections- Need 'subcollection' link

The first form is useful -- ironically, I can't find either Grateful Dead on p13, where it would alphabetically be, nor "The Grateful Dead" on p32.

The second form would indeed be preferable, if it linked to a details page for each band. I personally would be happy if the current links in that page were replaced by details page links.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: May 11, 2006 1:43am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Collections- Need 'subcollection' link

The first form is useful -- ironically, I can't find either Grateful Dead on p13, where it would alphabetically be, nor "The Grateful Dead" on p32

I got to them by typing "grateful" into the search box next to the rest, to refine it. Pretty clunky, takes guesswork.

The second form would indeed be preferable, if it linked to a details page for each band. I personally would be happy if the current links in that page were replaced by details page links.

Right, or some combo page kind of like that, where you could get both the shows-pullup *and* the collection page via 2 separate links for each band?

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2006-05-11 08:43:34

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Poster: Dancing Salmon Date: May 11, 2006 4:57am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Collections- Need 'subcollection' link

Diana Hamilton: I got to them by typing "grateful" into the search box next to the rest, to refine it. Pretty clunky, takes guesswork.

[btw, how did you do that quoting thing with italicized quotes? It makes the posts more informative.]

Yes, it seems too much of the current system relies on your already knowing what you want. Someone on another thread suggested searching for String Cheese Incident plus a specific date. The nice feature of the old system was that you could just muck about much more easily, just seeing what's there instead of performing a targeted search. The poster you were responding to used the archive to explore new bands, just whatever took his fancy. He might not know to search for "grateful" if he'd never heard of the Grateful Dead.

Right, or some combo page kind of like that, where you could get both the shows-pullup *and* the collection page via 2 separate links for each band?

That would work for me, though I wish it would just revert to the old list of years for which recordings are available.
That's the disadvantage of the current Band collection page .. you have an option to search for shows in a specific year, but you don't know what years are possible. For instance, the GD again, I wouldn't offhand think to search for shows in 2004, where a show from 1971 somehow got misfiled. Maybe this old information, as on
http://www.archive.org/audio/etreelisting-browse.php?collection=etree&cat=Grateful%20Dead
could be added to the current collection page for each band, the list of years appearing below what's there now?

It just seems a shame to lose this wonderfully intuitive, useful and efficient format for something that seems designed more out of programming/database considerations than user needs and convenience.

[tweaked formatting- mod]

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2006-05-11 11:57:32

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Poster: Dancing Salmon Date: May 11, 2006 4:03am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Collections- Need 'subcollection' link

Apologies for the format of previous post. I tried to quote Diana Hamilton's post by including parts in <> and obviously did something that upset whoever formats the postings ;-). Not only were the quotes missing, but it threw most of the post into italics. Oy veh.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: May 11, 2006 5:02am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Collections- Need 'subcollection' link

It's with html format tags. Hit "edit" on the post I changed above and you will see! It's *i*blah blah*/i* where * are the < bracket things. You can do it with b for bold like Brad does too. ;)

But if you do them wrong or leave something out it can look funky.

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2006-05-11 12:02:21

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Poster: Dancing Salmon Date: May 11, 2006 8:28am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Collections- Need 'subcollection' link

OK, I see the tags .. italics <\i> etc. Kind of like writing Tex.

Is there a direct way to include the text of the post you're responding to, or do you cut and paste from the original? On second thought, better to leave a secret. So few people bother to edit quoted material in newsgroup posts anymore, no sense in encouraging them.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: May 11, 2006 8:45am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Forum quoting

AFAIK its copy/paste only.

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Poster: Dancing Salmon Date: May 11, 2006 11:22am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Forum quoting

AFAIK its copy/paste only.
Well, then thank for the extra effort :-).

I know some web based mail lets me quote the original in my reply, thought I might be missing something obvious.
And I just looked at the original of this, and my previuos post, and notice I still got the tags wrong .. let's see how this goes.

This post was modified by Dancing Salmon on 2006-05-11 18:22:13

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Poster: jloh Date: May 10, 2006 11:20pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Collections- Need 'subcollection' link

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=mediatype%3Acollection%20collection%3Aetree excellent.... TY!


the other way just brings up a basic search results page....

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